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From National Broadcast News to Dream Travel Job: Clint Henderson with The Points Guy

Angela Tuell Season 5 Episode 10

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What happens when a veteran broadcast journalist with a passion for travel lands his dream job? Clint Henderson, Managing Editor at The Points Guy, takes us on a fascinating journey through his career transition from major news networks to the world of travel journalism.

Having worked across ABC News, Fox, MSNBC and more, Clint brings a unique perspective to his role at The Points Guy. He shares how his broadcast writing skills—crafting short, punchy sentences for television—unexpectedly prepared him for digital content creation. With remarkable candor, he reflects on career decisions that shaped his path, including staying too long at Fox News despite growing personal discomfort with the blurring lines between news and opinion.

The conversation shifts to practical travel wisdom as Clint reveals insider strategies that make travel accessible to everyone. From maximizing Google Flights' underutilized features to scoring Delta One business class to Australia for under 80,000 miles, his tips demonstrate how points and miles can transform travel experiences without breaking the bank. Particularly valuable is his insight into current market conditions, predicting "the summer of deals" with flights to Europe available for under $500 round trip.

Beyond tactics, Clint offers philosophical reflections on travel itself. Having visited all 50 states and 60 countries, he acknowledges the bittersweet reality that there's never enough time to see everything: "Sometimes you just have to take a breath and say it's okay, I'm not going to be able to see everything in this world in this lifetime, and that's okay." This perspective from someone who's flown 88,000 miles already this year carries particular weight.

Follow Clint's journey and insider tips by subscribing to The Points Guy newsletter or connecting with him on Instagram (@ClintPage1) and X (@ClintPHenderson).


Check out the tools he mentions in this episode: 

Google flights

DeltaVacations 

AAvacations 

Going

ThriftyTraveler 

Pointspath 

Seats.Aero


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Angela Tuell:

Welcome to Media in Minutes. This is your host, Angela Tuell. This podcast features in-depth interviews with those who report on the world around us. They share everything from their favorite stories to what happened behind the lens and give us a glimpse into their world From our studio here at Communications Redefined. This is Media in Minutes. On today's episode, we are talking with managing editor of the Points, guy Clint Henderson.

Angela Tuell:

Clint worked in broadcast news for more than two decades, including stints at ABC, news, fox and MSNBC, before landing his dream job at the Points Guy in 2019. He was raised in California and Montana, but has called New York home. For more than 20 years, clint has been featured on ABC, cbs, cnn, bloomberg, fox, nbc News, msnbc, news Nation and in print, in Axios, consumer Reports, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, yahoo Finance and many more. He flies 100,000 miles a year and has written stories about numerous destinations, including Belize, brazil, colombia, denmark, france and the United Kingdom. His goal is to travel to every country on the planet, but he can only claim 60 so far. Hi Clint, how are you?

Clint Henderson:

I'm well. Thanks for having me on today.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, I'm looking forward to speaking with you. I would love if you could briefly walk us through your career. I know you started in broadcast. Did you always want to be in the journalism field?

Clint Henderson:

So I did. I actually I went to some political summer schools in high school Junior Statesman was one of them and I got to go to a White House press briefing and do a pretend press conference, and so that really got me catching the bug for journalism and so I actually wanted to be a print reporter by the time I graduated college, though newspapers were already on a really steep decline. Yeah, I could not find a job, but the good news is I had been working at the local nbc affiliate while I was in college, which was, uh, cron and which was an nbc affiliate in san francisco at the time. Okay, and I worked for their sort of sort of like their version of new york, one which is called was called bay tv, and I started as a intern there and then I was a production assistant and sort of worked my way up there and, yeah, out of college. That launched my journalism career.

Clint Henderson:

And then I ended up as a reporter and anchor at the country's first streaming business news network. It was called On 24. Okay, nobody had broadband. So once thecom crash happened, uh, I was laid off with everybody else in the newsroom and, um, I was freelancing in TV news again at um, cron, okay and uh, and then I was like I could probably do this in New York, so I moved to New York without a job.

Angela Tuell:

Wow.

Clint Henderson:

Cousin had a rent-controlled apartment in the village and he said you can pay me $500 a month, and so I moved to New York and then I ended up at MSNBC and worked at MSNBC and then ABC News and then Fox 5 in New York and then Fox News Channel and then back to MSNBC and then PIX11 and then eventually WABC, before I got my dream job at the Points Guy.

Angela Tuell:

Okay, you were all over the place in broadcast. Besides moving to New York, what were some significant moments that shaped that journey?

Clint Henderson:

So I think really just loving news was really what really launched me into the business, and the other thing that I got to do was to cover national politics through several elections, so that was really fun. I helped launch Megyn Kelly into her broadcast career at Fox and helped get a new show called America's Newsroom off the ground. That's now one of the most successful shows on TV and there was a lot of turmoil at Fox over the years and so, yeah, I've seen a lot. I've seen you know, when I started in the business we were pulling scripts off of printers and carrying scripts.

Angela Tuell:

Was it tape-to-tape editing, like when I was in it?

Clint Henderson:

And you know cassettes and then the advent of digital and you know you've just seen the steady erosion of journalism jobs over the years. So that's been another challenge. And then what was really fun for me is I became obsessed with travel in my 30s and then got to know points and miles and loyalty programs and elite status and learn the ins and outs, because I was poor and broke and I wanted to travel and that turned into really a love affair for all things travel and that led to the job at the points guy. They were hiring a news editor.

Angela Tuell:

Okay.

Clint Henderson:

Role and I was like, oh my gosh, this is the perfect combination of sort of my journalism background and also travel, travel writing. So then to transition into digital news was, uh, was a new, a new thing for me too. So I had the newspaper um background, and then broadcast background, and then streaming background and background. So, and now it's social media, a lot of social media.

Angela Tuell:

So it's a wild ride, yeah, so what surprised?

Clint Henderson:

you a wild ride.

Angela Tuell:

Yeah, so what surprised you to learn once you went to the points guy?

Clint Henderson:

Well, I think that the fact that the broadcast writing skills you know, I was writing teases, I was writing intros, I had been a segment producer at MSNBC for a long time so the realization that that kind of writing, that short burst, sort of declarative writing that you do in broadcast news, could transfer over to a longer form. And I think you know, when I first got into TV news I'll never forget, they told me I had to write shorter, that I was writing too long because I'd had seen a newspaper writer and so. But then when I went into digital media it was the opposite. It was actually like it really helped me because I think, you know, it just helps to write in short declarative sentences in general, no matter who you're writing or producing for.

Angela Tuell:

Right, right. Going back to those networks just a little bit, you worked at almost all the major networks and some of them were very different Fox, msnbc. Did the culture and approach differ between these? You know how did it feel internally?

Clint Henderson:

when I started at Fox there was more of a hard line between between the news side and the opinion side and I I do feel like over the years that started to blur more and so I was increasingly uncomfortable there and uh, so that's when I jumped back to MSNBC and it was. It was quite a swing of the pendulum, um, but it was interesting and I think you know for the most part, even though the sort of political leanings of the network might be, networks might be one way or the other, in general there's a lot of really good journalists, no matter where you are.

Angela Tuell:

Yes.

Clint Henderson:

And the sort of stratification of cable news that we've seen. It didn't. It didn't. When I got into it it wasn't like that at all. It was much more like we're all trying to just be straight down the line. But no matter which side of the aisle the network may be leaning more into or not, there's always great journalists behind the scenes and you know, I think you've seen that in the sort of the ranks of the former Fox folks who are out at the major networks, at all the networks and all the newspapers now. So that funnel works both ways, I think, which is really interesting.

Angela Tuell:

Before we jump into the points, Guy, looking back, is there anything you would have done differently in your career path?

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, I can honestly say and this is the advice I give to folks who've asked me I stayed too long at Fox. You know, I learned so much there. I started as a writer producer there and I worked my way up to executive producing a two hour live news show for years and years and I shouldn't have been afraid to leave. It was such a great, secure job with great benefits that I think I stayed too long. And I think that's the advice that I would give to folks, especially in the TV news business, that, um, you know, don't get stale and don't be afraid to to move around, Cause that's really how you're going to make the most money too.

Angela Tuell:

Yes.

Clint Henderson:

Is to jump um to other networks, and that that's the biggest regret that I have. But at the same time, you know, my path eventually led to this job where I am now, which is really like the job of my dreams, and it's been such a gift. So I wouldn't necessarily change it. I just, you know, I think I was unhappy for several years at the end of my time there.

Angela Tuell:

So that's, that's probably what I would have changed the end of my time there, so that's probably what I would have changed. Yeah, that's great insight too. So for those who are not intimately familiar, I know everyone's heard of the Points Guy right. But for those who are not intimately familiar, please tell us a little bit more about it. Your audience, staff stories. You like to focus on anything new?

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, so the Points Guy, we really cover everything travel. But the goal for for us as as journalists working every day, is to help people travel more, travel better and travel cheaper in better ways. What was a little travel blog into a major outlet and it's been remarkable to be part of that journey and to see what he's been able to do with the company. But we cover everything that touches travel basically. And you know, when I was hired, I was hired so we could cover more breaking news and it ended up being really good timing because it was right before COVID hit. So when COVID hit, it was good that the Points Guy had someone with breaking news experience to help guide the coverage.

Angela Tuell:

Yes.

Clint Henderson:

But what we really do and what we're really clued into is how people can use points and miles and credit cards to make their lives better, and I think people don't realize. I think people see credit cards or they see the world of points and miles and they get overwhelmed and they get scared and they just shy away from it. But there there is so many paths to traveling better and to extending your, your budget that that that is what is that trying to do every day is teach people that it doesn't have to be scary, that you know there's entry levels into entry level ways into the world of points and miles that that can really make make your life better.

Angela Tuell:

Yes. So what is a typical day like? I'm sure there's not a typical.

Clint Henderson:

I go through all the big papers and all the news sites that I follow, like the New Times, the Wall Street Journal, san Francisco Chronicle, you name it, and I probably have looked at it in the morning and then obviously, the other Points and Miles blogs. I look through our competitors' sites to see if there's anything new, and then I look through my email box to see if there's any press releases from airlines, hotels, you know PR firms that are looking for coverage. And then we all meet. We have a morning editorial meeting where we all come with some of our ideas for the day and what we're working on, and we've got various teams that all sort of cross-pollinate from social media to aviation, to hotels, to points and miles. So we have that morning meeting that helps us decide what we're going to cover and help assign out stories.

Clint Henderson:

And then my day, a lot of times spent, uh, writing stories, uh, looking again for news, editing stories, um, making sure we're covering everything. And then I also do a lot of. I end up doing a lot of press. So, um, you know I I could be called like. This week has been especially crazy because real id launching and you've got air traffic control problems at Newark, so there's been a lot of media requests. So I've been doing a lot of that recently as well. And then obviously we travel a lot, so I'm on the road. I think I've already flown 88,000 miles this year.

Angela Tuell:

How do you fit all that in?

Clint Henderson:

It's a good thing I can work remotely and I'm good at working on in planes and in hotel rooms, because otherwise I wouldn't get half of what I'm what I've gotten been able to get done yeah.

Angela Tuell:

And and you know how do you do all that and manage a work-life balance, or is there really no such thing?

Clint Henderson:

I'm probably not the best person about a work-life balance. No, I do. I do see my family quite a bit. But you know, just to be brutally honest, it probably does help that I don't have kids that are depending on me to be home, because it's just the life of a travel editor or reporter is not super conducive to um, to home life, so um, but there are plenty of people at the points guy who make it work. Uh, bless them.

Angela Tuell:

So uh, yeah, I know I always, I always don't like that saying if you can have it all, cause I you know, you can have all that you want, maybe, but to have it all is almost impossible.

Clint Henderson:

I would feel like I had a dog. He passed away recently. I had him for 13 years and it was hard to leave him. So let me imagine what it's like for families leaving their kids to hit the road. I think most people at the point of skate don't travel as much as a few of us, so it's not so extreme, but it's important. I try to get in some kind of exercise every day. I try to take a little meditation break in the afternoons just because I'm staring at a computer for so long. So it's really important and you don't want to run yourself ragged. But also, you know, especially those of us with a background in breaking news, a lot of us are really adrenaline junkies and so we enjoy being workaholics, but it's not for everybody for sure.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, I feel you there Talking a little bit more about the points guy, who is a typical reader. You mentioned a little bit and has that changed over time?

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, so we are increasingly trying to speak to a broader audience. But our core, our core base is people who collect miles and points, who are maybe loyal to an airline or a cruise company or a hotel program. A lot of our readers love programs like American Airlines, advantage or World of Hyatt, marriott, bonvoy, those kind of things, the big hotel chains, the big US airlines. Obviously, we've really expanded into cruise coverage over the years. Our man on the sea is Gene Sloan, who's constantly on a boat, travels more than I do, I think, which is pretty remarkable. So we've got that as our real core base.

Clint Henderson:

As I mentioned, get into the world of Points and Miles and make it a little more broadly appealing, because I think anyone can benefit from this pretty much from what we cover at the Points Guy and so we're increasingly looking for those folks and increasingly our audience is on social media. You know that wasn't as big a piece as our audience in the past and our newsletter subscribers are so important to us. In the age of Google algorithms showing you or not showing you on a particular day, it's really good to be directly in touch with an audience. And so our newsletter subscribers we're increasingly giving them exclusive access to things, deal alerts, things that they won't see anywhere else, so we can have more of a relationship with our core users.

Angela Tuell:

Yeah, I love those when they hit my inbox and they're so easy to read and scan and get some great information on.

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, and we've really I mean, we've had some. You know I don't like to come and talk too much about credit cards, but we've had some amazing offers from credit card companies who are just trying to get new customers and they're really offering very, very generous sign-up bonuses right now, especially a few of them. So don't sleep on that kind of thing, because that's a lot more accessible than you may think.

Angela Tuell:

Which ones stand out just quickly.

Clint Henderson:

So there's a Chase Sapphire preferred offer right now for 100,000 points and that's only a $95 annual fee. They give you a $50 hotel statement credit and then those points can transfer to programs like British Airways or to Hyatt. So you're not locked into one program, but you've got all these transfer partners that you can transfer that currency and make it even more valuable too. So, um, you know that that offers worth quite a bit of of cold hard cash and we're all spending money anyway. You might as well put it on a credit card where you're getting something back. That's my, that's my take on it, and for me I'm able to. You know a lot of people say, well, I'm just going to use a 2% cash back card. That's fine, and I think a lot of people are just fine doing that. But I know I can take the points that I'm getting instead and turn that into business class seats around the world. So for me that's a better value than 2% cash back.

Angela Tuell:

Definitely, definitely. What are the most challenging and the most rewarding parts of your job?

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, I think the most challenging parts of the job is just not having enough time. There's just not enough hours in the day. There's so many stories to tell and there's so many adventures to write. I was just looking through my photo album because I'm writing a couple of stories for our social media feed. I look at my phone. I'm like, oh, I forgot about that trip. I should do something on that. I should do something on that. Like I want to share my adventures with the world and there's only so much time in a day, so that's that's challenging. Uh, that's challenging. So I think you know. Also, it's it's challenging getting people to engage like they used to. They used to read a uh, you know, a 10,000 word story on a hotel and our fans have just shrunk down. So you have to find new ways of storytelling 50 words.

Clint Henderson:

And we're trying to come up with new ways to tell stories, that if someone gets overwhelmed. But when they open a story and it says it's going to take 12 minutes to read it, we don't want to lose those folks.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, what are some stories that you've written, that you know, even recently, that stand out to you?

Clint Henderson:

So I there's some really great hacks out there I was able to use Delta miles to fly to Australia for under 80,000 miles in Delta one. So it's a really fun story that I got to tell about, you know, flying in one of Delta's best planes, their A350 all the way from Mexico city to LAX and then on to Brisbane. And you know you can pay 80,000 to fly to Memphis from New York. So to fly a business class on a 14 hour flight with that is pretty cool. So you know, if you read stories like that the points guy you'll learn how you can potentially do that for yourself, and that's sort of the goal.

Clint Henderson:

Some of the other stories that I've loved over the years are just I, when I was at home during COVID, some of the I ended up at my father's ranch in Montana and some of the first trips I was able to do were road trips and I wanted to sort of talk about hitting all 50 states, and so I was able to check off several of those states with a road trip from Montana. So I wrote about the Great American Road Trip and how that can be fun, and so, yeah, there's been so many fun stories over the years that I've been able to tell, and you know I am a prolific writer, so I write probably more than I even should be, but it's really fun.

Angela Tuell:

Yeah, that's how you're great at what you do. How do you measure the success?

Clint Henderson:

of a story. Well, we get reader emails is one is one way. I know I'm I've struck a chord if I get, you know, four emails from readers who've who want to weigh in on a story. We have the metrics that show how many people read a story, so that's always a good guide. And then you know, obviously, if it's led to people signing up for the newsletter or to read, to read other stories. That's another good indication that the stories touched a chord with the audience.

Angela Tuell:

Okay, and PR professionals are a large part of our audience for this podcast. What advice do you have for them about pitching stories and working with the points guy?

Clint Henderson:

I think one of the one of the things that happens with PR pitches is sometimes you'll get two of the same pitch from an agency and you're on a list on multiple lists of theirs maybe. And so I think PR companies should really make that a priority of making sure that you're not bombarding sources with multiple emails on the same topic. And then I think a little personalization goes a long way. Like, instead of a blast to a thousand people, maybe you send that pitch to 10 people that you've worked with or that you have relationship with or you know would be a story that they would like to tell. So a little more personalization is really important and you know, important.

Clint Henderson:

Um, and you know, I think I think some, some journalists would say don't send me follow up emails. But the truth is we get so many emails that sometimes you don't see the first iteration of it. So I don't mind a follow up and you know, even if it's just a little note that says hey, just uh, just a quick follow here, I think it'd be great for you. Here's maybe why a little more curated outreach, I think, is helpful.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, that's a big, decisive one. We have lists that are like do not follow up and follow up, because some are very much so like do not follow up with me, and then some are yeah.

Clint Henderson:

I'm happy, I feel so bad for PR folks because it's not an easy job to get someone to engage and then you know, I think it's just it's tough, it's tough, it's tough on both sides.

Angela Tuell:

So yeah, yeah, both sides, definitely. And then you have so many emails that you can't even see them all because of the amount of.

Clint Henderson:

Sometimes I'll go back through my emails and I'll realize, oh my God, this PR person offered to take send me on a trip to some amazing destination. I didn't even reply and I just, you know you feel terrible, but we all just get so distracted sometimes. So I do try to go back through my emails and make sure I'm following up with folks, especially folks I've worked with before, but it is tough.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, completely get it. You mentioned a little bit about what 88,000 miles already this year. Are there any? I will not ask you a favorite destination, because I know that's an awful question to ask a travel writer, but are there any destinations that changed your worldview or surprised you?

Clint Henderson:

So I think one of the things you, when you travel a lot, you realize there the more you travel, the more you realize that there are so many other places to see. So it's almost like a, it's almost overwhelming, because so I went to Vienna, austria, and that opened a whole world to me. Because you've got, vienna was the capital of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, so you've got this amazing capital city that you don't really think of as a capital city because it's the capital of Austria, but it was the capital of a big chunk of Europe at one point. And so you've got these great. It's sort of like a quieter Paris to me and I loved Vienna. But you go to a place like Vienna and then you realize, oh my God, there's Strasbourg, there's the, there's the mountains you could go to, like there's it. Just like there's so much in the world to see and there's so little time.

Clint Henderson:

Like I told you, I've been now to every 50 states, all 50 states, and I really wanted to go to every country, but there's 193 countries and some of them won't even let Americans in, like North Korea, and so I you know I'm starting to run out of time I've been to 60, which is a lot for most Americans. But right, you know, that's a third of the countries only, so there's so much more to see. And then I go to a place like Japan and I'm like, okay, so now I've been to Tokyo and I've been to Kyoto, and now I've been to Okinawa. But now I'm like, oh my God, I haven't really spent time in Hokkaido. There's Osaka I've never been to, like you. Just, you know, there's not enough time to do everything, and so sometimes you just have to take a breath and say, yeah, it's okay, I'm not going to be able to see everything in this world in this lifetime, and that's okay.

Angela Tuell:

Oh, I feel you and I'm so bad about you. Know, we travel four or five times a year with our, you know, my kids and my husband, which is a little bit more than some people do too, but still. But, and every time it's only a week because of school and work and that sort of thing, and we try to fit in the whole country and that's not possible.

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, you can't do it all that is hard for me.

Angela Tuell:

I pack the itineraries and then try to cut out some things, but I feel you there. Do you have any favorite? You mentioned the credit card and the miles. Do you have any other favorite travel hacks?

Clint Henderson:

Oh my God, I've got so many. We could talk for an hour about it, but I'll just give you a couple of the highlights. So the first one I would say to people is Google Flights is so underrated. You can put in what flights you want to take and you can set flight alerts, which is amazing. It gives you historical pricing so you can see whether you're getting a good deal or not. It will email you when prices drop or prices go up for flights that you've alerted. And then Google Flights has this page called Explore, where you just put in your home airport and, in a rough outline of when you want to go, it will show you the cheapest destination you can go to. So it will help you find amazing deals all over the world.

Clint Henderson:

I just looked from New York and just for fun to look in July what it was showing. It was showing Cancun under $300 round trip, orlando for under $200 round trip. It was showing Europe for under $500 round trip, and this is the peak summer travel date, so you can find some extraordinary deals that way. Airline vacation packages, so delta vacations, aavacationscom when you combine airline uh prices and hotels together, book them together, you can save a lot of times like 40 percent that way, so remarkable savings, um. And then I sign up for the airlines I like to fly the most Alaska, american Delta. I sign up for their newsletter and you get a lot of times you'll get flash sale notifications before anyone else, so that's a great little hack that you can do. I also sign up for for subscription deal alert services, so there's one called Going. That I love.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, I love them too.

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, thrifty Traveler is another one that's really good and they will send you deal alerts. And then there's all kinds of um new websites for finding um points and miles deals. So one of the ones we love at the points guy is points path Um, but there's all kinds of new ones to seatsarrow all kinds of new ones too seatsaero all kinds of really interesting tools that you can use to find really amazing flight deals. And the final tip I would just say is follow a few of those accounts on social media. You'd be surprised how many deals you'll find now on social media. The problem with social media is that they end up the deals die so quickly because, uh, so many people see them and scoop them up.

Angela Tuell:

But right there too, on instagram, or which one do you suggest?

Clint Henderson:

yeah, instagram, and also um x, formerly known as twitter. Okay, yeah, you know going and thrifty traveler, follow the points guy. And then our newsletter too. You know the points guy newsletter. Like I mentioned, we actually send subscribers deals that are not accessible anywhere else.

Angela Tuell:

Yeah, that's great. What trends are you seeing in the travel tourism world right now?

Clint Henderson:

So it's interesting. I'm seeing pretty big reductions in pricing for airline tickets. So I think it's going to be the summer of deals, for basically, since we've come out of the worst of the pandemic it has been demand has been over the top, so much so that things have gotten really expensive, and this is the first year I'm seeing year over year price declines and actually a lot of deals. In the primetime summer travel season, airlines are reducing capacity because they have seen a fall off in demand, but that capacity reduction is not happening until the fall, so they've still got the same number of seats available for the summertime. So I think we're going to see a lot of deals.

Angela Tuell:

Awesome. So if you want to travel in the fall, should you buy those now or wait till?

Clint Henderson:

So we're basically in the best booking window. It's usually one to two months ahead of time for domestic travel, but usually I tell people to book a little ahead of time for international. But this summer, as I mentioned, I'm seeing regularly on the major airlines under $500 round trip to Europe, so pretty good deals out there.

Angela Tuell:

That's great. Before we go, I need to ask what are your goals for the future professionally?

Clint Henderson:

So I just got promoted, actually, to principal spokesperson at the Point Sky Congratulations, yeah. And we're doing a lot more original research. So we're actually working with the Harris Poll Company to do polls of traveler sentiment. So we're trying to find, you know, what? Are our travelers cutting back on travel now because of the economic headwinds? Are they? Are they still going to spend as much as they were last year? Are they afraid of flying right now? Things like that. So we're doing more original research.

Clint Henderson:

So that's where my um, my, my attention is focused. Right now. I'm going to be working with um the points path to come up with uh pricing trends. So we have our own uh data on that, which will be really interesting as far as best times to book and um when to book for the best deals and that kind of thing, cause I want us to have our own uh owned data on that kind of stuff. I think it would be really good for the company. And then you know, continuing to get the word out about the points guy, um in in the media and um, I, I think I did 200 press interviews last year. So let's see, let's see if I can top that this year.

Angela Tuell:

Yes, you're all over broadcast and and uh, print and digital too. Well, we will. We will link to everything in our show notes. And how can listeners connect with you online?

Clint Henderson:

Yeah, so um, you can find my byline all over at the points, Guy, and you can also follow me on Instagram at ClintPage1. Page is my middle name. Okay, clint P Henderson on X.

Angela Tuell:

Perfect. Thank you so much for your time, Clint.

Clint Henderson:

Thank you.

Angela Tuell:

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