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Rusty Ray: Midday News Anchor and Host WCCO Radio in Minneapolis, MN
In today’s episode, Rusty Ray shares about being a long time TV anchor and the transition to radio. Listen as Angela talks with former college journalism classmate, Rusty, to share insight into TV and radio news.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/RustyRay1980
WCCO Radio: https://twitter.com/WCCORadio
University of Maryland: https://merrill.umd.edu/
WBTW: https://twitter.com/wbtwnews13
Rusty says goodbye at WBTW: https://www.wbtw.com/news/news13s-rusty-ray-says-good-bye/
FedEx: https://www.fedex.com/global/choose-location.html
North Metro TV: https://northmetrotv.com/
SAG AFTRA: https://sagawards.org/
WTOP Washington: https://wtop.com/
WBAL Baltimore: https://www.wbaltv.com/
WGN Chicago: https://wgntv.com/
Veterans in SC: https://scnow.com/news/local/article_a60e8ad4-f60a-5f63-a47d-bcdeb6278cfb.html
NASCAR: https://www.nascar.com/
Sopranos: https://www.hbo.com/the-sopranos
Audacy App: https://www.audacy.com/v103/download-radiocom-app
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Welcome to Media in Minutes. This is your host Angela Tuell. This podcast features in-depth interviews with those reports on the world around us. They share everything from their favorite stories to what happened behind the lens and give us a glimpse into their world. From our studio here at Communications Redefined, this is Media in Minutes. I am so excited to welcome our guest today WCCO News Talk Radio anchor and reporter Rusty Ray. Rusty has spent most of his career in television journalism as an anchor and reporter in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, before moving to Minnesota. He's not only a successful broadcaster, but has also taught at multiple universities. Hi, Rusty. Welcome.
Rusty Ray:Oh, my gosh, Angie, you're there. It's so great to hear your voice.
Angela Tuell:That's what I was just going to say. Thank you for doing this.
Rusty Ray:Thank you for the chance. I was thinking, you know, we had classes together. But the class that sticks out in my mind is journalism law. We sat next to each other a couple times. It was with Diana Huffman. She was so tough. I love that class. But I got like a C because I don't study. So
Angela Tuell:I really did think it was fascinating. It was really great information we needed to know.
Rusty Ray:For sure.
Angela Tuell:So as you've kind of alluded to, for our listeners, Rusty is a friend and colleague who went to the University of Maryland with me, and we both started our careers as television reporters around the same time.
Rusty Ray:Yes, we did. That's right. Yes, we did small market TV.
Angela Tuell:Yes. You actually started at a CVS television station, WBTW in Myrtle Beach and stayed there for 14 years. That is quite an accomplishment. Yes.
Rusty Ray:Yeah. It's unheard of instead of moving up to a different market. I like to at least tell myself that I moved up within the newsroom and I'm proud of it. I had great, great experiences. I did absolutely everything I ever wanted to do in TV. I did it that TV station. I did. I did it all and more. It was great. It was really really great.
Angela Tuell:What did you like the best?
Rusty Ray:Well, it was a it was what you call a legacy station.
Like everybody in that area:Florence, Myrtle Beach, Lumberton, North Carolina, that corner of the Carolinas, like grew up watching WBTW. This past week, it just celebrated 68 years on the air. And it was just the station that everybody knew and that everybody watched. And so I eventually about halfway through that 14 years, I became a morning anchor. And like I took so seriously the fact that people would come up to me at the grocery store, and they would either say, what's the weather gonna be? And I'm like, I'm not the weatherman. Or, or they would say, You know what, my kids we watch you every morning, my kids are eating their Cheerios, you guys crack us up, you guys get us out the door. And that that informed like everything I did when that happened, because I'm like, Okay, people we're a part of people's day. And like, it's a hard, it's hard work and the hours suck. But it's worth it when people tell me that. It was really nice, it was really needed.
Angela Tuell:You didn't get any of the I remember some older ladies coming up to me in the grocery store being like, Oh, honey, you are so much prettier in person. They would say like not that you're not, you know, just that brutal honesty here. You didn't get any of that?
Rusty Ray:They say they would say you look different in person. And I would either say Well, I'm sitting down when I'm on TV or six one in person, I'm taller, but or I would say hopefully I look better on TV because I'm getting paid for that. And they say, I think but but he I think when they would see like on TV like you're in their living room. And then when they would see you out of context of that, like the grocery store and a public event or whatever, they wouldn't know what to say. They're like, Oh, my gosh, there's that person.
Angela Tuell:Right, right. That's a good point.
Rusty Ray:And somebody wants told me they're like, You know what? You might be the only person that talks to those people in the course of a day, like some people live alone or older folks. And that really informed me too. It's like, well, you know, he's right. And that was that was not even a TV person. It was a guy that cut my hair. And he's just like, you know, you need to be nice to these people. Because you may be the only person who talks to them through their television every day. Now, I'm not trying to make a sound so important. But that's that's the truth.
Angela Tuell:But it is it is yeah. What was it like staying in the community for that many years?
Rusty Ray:Well, it was great. It was I live a few years in, in Florence, South Carolina, which is right there on i 95. And it's a growing community. It's changed a lot even since I lived there 15 years ago. But then we moved to Myrtle Beach for the last like nine years and my wife and I met at University of Maryland, and then she came down there and we got married and she was a teacher. And her her career. When we got to Myrtle Beach, her career took off as well. She did really really well. She was her school's Teacher of the Year. I mean it was it was a great situation for her and I'm so proud of her but but being there that long and like you could you could pick up the phone and you could call certain people and you knew you would get the straight scoop because you've trusted those people. And they would call you and they would trust you. I remember it came up on my Facebook memories a few weeks ago, like the anniversary of some really, really bad flooding that happened in South Carolina. Not a hurricane, it was just like 100 year flood or whatever. And on my Facebook, it was something like, it pays to have worked in the same market for so many years. Because when all the roads are closed, you can go on TV and just spout off all the other routes you could take because I've been on all these roads like I'm like a Garmen like I knew all the alternate routes, because I drove all over the place shooting high school football or going to people's houses or going and shooting stories. And it was a big spread out area, a very rural area. So like I got to know it and I take a lot of pride in that. Like I really knew and I really enjoyed getting to know all the people there in that market. They were really, really good to me and my family.
Angela Tuell:And then you moved to Minnesota. So you went from the beach to the present tundra. Not quite,
Rusty Ray:Not quite everybody, everybody. Myrtle Beach said you're moving where? And everybody in Minnesota said you moved from where? The long, well the short version is my wife grew up in the Twin City she's from she's born in St. Paul. Her parents are here. And so we kind of had it on our radar that we wanted to move somewhere eventually, and raise our kids and Minnesota was on the list. The more I visited here, the more I liked before we moved here. I had not been here in the wintertime but okay. You know, you know, the coldest I think it's been here on my car thermometer. It was 30 below that temperature. But it's also been 100 degrees. You know, it's like it's the Super Bowl of weather and fall is really, really great here. Like it's really nice.
Angela Tuell:Yeah, they definitely have the four seasons.
Rusty Ray:I got snow shoes, and I go out and walk into the pond and walk on the lake. And when they're frozen, and you just you just go with it. It's really great. I really love living in Minnesota.
Angela Tuell:Did it feel like starting over you know, you had this 14 year career you were well known in the community and then you move?
Rusty Ray:Yeah, it definitely did. And I had my struggles kind of finding my footing professionally, I tried a couple of things that didn't work out, I worked odd jobs, I worked for FedEx unloading trucks, while like in the afternoons, I'd go do that in the mornings, I would go to networking events, because I was trying to start my own video production company and, and I, nobody here knows me. Yeah, if I tried to do my own company in Myrtle Beach, like, left the TV station in Myrtle Beach, but stayed there and tried to develop a company or like you like, go to work in PR and then maybe even have my own, like, I probably would have done a little bit better just because people knew who I was. But here nobody knew me. And it's a big city. There's 4 million people in the in the 10 county area in the Twin Cities. And so, you know, I had a hard time and -. But at the same time, as I was telling you before we started recording like it. It was like a midlife or an identity crisis. But at the same time, I learned so much about myself. Yeah. And I would go to these networking events, and I could talk to anybody. I'm a reporter, like tell me about this -
Angela Tuell:No matter if you're homeless, or if you're the head of the biggest company in - yes.
Rusty Ray:That's right. I interviewed everybody when I worked at this station in South Carolina and like, I can talk to anybody for, you know, grab a beer and have a little chitchat, but then trying to turn that into Hey, do you want to pay me to make a video for your company that got me nowhere? I couldn't. I don't like, close the deal. And that's just not my strength. Yeah. So eventually, I did find I did some work for one city government that has a TV department and that was part time. And then I went to work full time for a community government access channel up here called North Metro TV. And they basically serve seven cities. You know, the city council meetings are on Channel 15 on your cable or whatever. That's our channel. And so we would do a weekly newscast. It was one newscast a week we taped it, and I edited it mostly. And we would we would go out and shoot stories. And so I was doing everything that I had done before just on a much slower, more easy paced situation. It's great. It was a great job. It was great people, nice people. And I did that for about four years up until this past summer. So
Angela Tuell:You know, the slow pace isn't - Is it really what we love as journalists as much so?
Rusty Ray:No, not really. But, you know, we had our second kid while I had that job, we COVID was while I had that job, and I could stay home. And we could produce our shows from home and I could do Zoom interviews from home or I could go out and interview somebody outdoors and we kept our kids safe. We kept our daughter home from school and then when the kids you know, tested positive for COVID after they went back to school, we could stay home with him and still work and like there was the flexibility that I think my family needed and that season of our lives. Yes, it was thanks to that job. And that's a blessing. It's really great. And I still was on TV and I still was reporting and interviewing and connecting with people in a meaningful way. And I really liked that.
Angela Tuell:Yes. And then now, you are a radio reporter at a top 15 market station there.
Rusty Ray:It's really wild. It's really crazy.
Angela Tuell:Yes. Tell us about it.
Rusty Ray:It was like a Friday morning, like in July this past July. And I saw a guy that I followed. He was on TV like me like morning anchor for a long, long time at the CBS station here at WCCO TV. And he left that job earlier this year. And he got an afternoon drivetime talk show on WCCO Radio, two different companies, St. Paul letters that go back a long time. And but but two different companies. And he tweeted out on a Friday, hey, come Come join our award winning news team. And I'm like, well, that's interesting. I didn't know that. I don't know how that works. And so I clicked on the link. I was like, you know, I wake up in the morning, I check my phone, I was still in the bed. So I emailed myself the link thinking I'll just read this later. Right? And by lunchtime I had applied for the job was a very simple application. And I'm like, I could totally do this like this. I could do this anchor and report for the radio. I can you know, that's great.
Angela Tuell:Yeah, it just as a side note, we had to start in radio in college and learn radio really well before we went to broadcast.
Rusty Ray:Yes. And we learned from radio genius, reporting genius journalism, legend Sue Copan. And she taught us all so much. And so when I I got offered this job over a course of a few weeks at WCCO Radio, she was the first person I reached out to I was like, Sue, check this out. She's oh my gosh, that's great. And here's you know, there's a union aspect I have to I had to join sag AFTRA to be on air. It's just part of the station. And so she helped me with some of that. And she helped me with a couple of questions I had because she's worked in radio before and so I yeah, I'm on the air doing news, midday. 11, 12, one and two o'clock, I do a three minute newscast at the top of the hour following their network news. And like, I just cannot believe that I wear this WCCO Radio in Minnesota is such a big deal. So many people here know it. And so many people here love it. And I grew up listening to it. It's a legacy station, just like the TV station I worked for. Yeah. And it's akin to WTO P in Washington, WBAL in Baltimore, would we say WGN in Chicago. You can hear it all across the prairie late at night on the clear night. You can hear it all the way into Canada and Iowa and all that stuff.
Angela Tuell:So are you pinching yourself every day?
Rusty Ray:I mean, I am it's such a you know, it's a big league job. I mean, Kamala Harris called into our station last week, like wow, I'm setting up interviews on a daily basis with the mayor of Minneapolis or the Attorney General of the State. And if you say him with CCO Radio, though, they're like yeah, we got 15 minutes we can spend with you on the phone. And it's like, okay, cool. Great.
Angela Tuell:So you know, being in TV for for all of your career, did anything surprise you when you started in radio?
Rusty Ray:I don't know if it surprised me. It just I knew that the writing had to be more concise. Because in TV, you would be told to turn a package a story that's on tape with your voice on tape, and a WBTW we were looking at like a minute 20. I got away with doing feature stories in about two minutes for the six o'clock news and our packages. Are we calling wrap a wrap at CCO. And those are 45 seconds, which is a lot shorter. Yes. So you're maybe looking at two sound bites and two voice tracks. And that's it.
Angela Tuell:Yeah. I don't remember that being that short when we were learning? I mean, it's probably shortened over the years. Yeah.
Rusty Ray:Yeah, for a three minute newscast. So you got to have mini stories there. So yeah. But you know, what I was thinking about this earlier is that you get people on the phone. Most of this is done via telephone. Not because of COVID that because you just need someone's just need someone's voice. It sounds silly. Without the camera, after all those years lugging cameras all over God's green earth, like, you just need a telephone or if you're in person, we record on iPhones now and just hold the iPhone up to their face and ask them a question. And it's so it's less, it's the camera can be so disarming to people who are not used to it and they get so nervous that they're gonna be on TV. Yes, but here you just call them up and say, Hey, I'm gonna record this phone call. Can I ask you some questions and then we'll use this in our news and then oh, yeah, sure. So that that's really great. It makes my job a lot easier and and way more enjoyable.
Angela Tuell:Yeah, I love that. Do you work with PR professionals often? I know on the in the radio side, you know, are they calling into the newsroom? We're sending emails in general I'm email address or what's your advice for PR professionals trying to get news to you there at the station?
Rusty Ray:Yeah, we get a fair amount of emails to the newsroom to the news, you know, list that we all are part of. And so I'm the new guy. So I still am looking for story ideas. And so I've jumped on a couple of PR pitches here lately. One was from somebody that I had done work with in the in the previous TV job here, and she actually emailed me and said, I heard you're at CCO radio now, congrats. And do you want to do a story with this about National School Lunch week? And I'm like, Well, that sounds interesting. If I'm, if I'm interested in it, like I'm going to do, I'm going to say I'll do it. Because the more that I can kind of shovel into the newsroom and say, Here, I'll have this this afternoon. They're like, okay, great. Yeah. So we get a lot of pitches. And if if it catches my eye, and I think I can make it something that is informative, and as a newsworthy story, then I'll do it. I received a pitch from someone else this week that was like, this particular hospital of this particular health system in the Twin Cities, is making a concerted effort with breast cancer awareness month in October to reach out and let transgender people know that they need to get tested too, they need to get mammograms too. Transgender women need to get need to get mammograms and transgender men, if they haven't completely gone through all the surgeries and procedures, then perhaps they need to be screened as well. I think that's interesting. That's something I don't know a whole lot about, and I'm willing to learn. And so I said, Hey, I'll do this. And so they set me up with the the technician who's in charge of it. And I just told the newsroom, I said, I'm gonna have this, it doesn't fit with the rest of our newscasts. Politics is really - we're doing mostly politics and crime right now.
Angela Tuell:Ok, yeah.
Rusty Ray:But I, you know, I bid on that, that pitch now, will that change, maybe I don't know, as I as I start to develop my own sources and my own rhythm and things like that. But it's a news factory. And just like, we show up, and we just crank out news, and then we go home, and I liked that. And it sounds kind of dreary, but it's not. It's just, it's just go go go. And so if, if we can pull in these, yeah, if we can pull in these other interesting things that, you know, these folks are, I just consider the PR folks are doing their job. They're sending up something that they can facilitate happening, and I can facilitate it on my end, and I think it's informative to whoever's listening, and that's what's important.
Angela Tuell:Yeah. And every, every story needs to have a local connection too, right?
Rusty Ray:Yes, yes. Yeah. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So yeah, I do see. I don't dismiss PR for any, it's like, you know, if I, if I see a pitch, some stuff we get is like, okay, that's never gonna be. Okay, great. But, but like, you know, okay, I can take, I can take this seriously. And I can I can say, Okay, let's do it. And we do.
Angela Tuell:You've been in the business now for more than 20 years, I shouldn't age us. What have been your proudest moments?
Rusty Ray:You know, I, especially in South Carolina, I did a lot I tried to do a lot with with veterans, I did a lot of stories with them. You know, in the Myrtle Beach area, there's a lot of retired veterans that retire and live there. There was an Air Force base there for years, and it closed 30 years ago, and a lot of people just stayed because it's Myrtle Beach, and they loved it. And so I was trying to find as many of those stories I could have interviewed, I still feel this way. If I could interview especially now Vietnam veterans every day, I really would, because it's fascinating. And yeah, especially Vietnam veterans, they don't typically like to talk about it. But if you can get them to talk about it. Before that it was World War Two veterans. But as life goes, many of them have moved on. And so we're not able to, there's still some but there's not as many as when you and I started, like even not nearly the same a number. So I'm really proud of the work we did with veterans stories in South Carolina. When I moved here and we did I did this community TV gig we put on ourselves to interview as many of our candidates for local races in an election year as we could and we would do it one on one and we would do it in the studio one on one, it would just be a kind of free flowing conversation. And we tried to ask the same questions for each race that we could but we took the pressure off of like having a debate on stage and like having to time answers and like yeah, I'm having a time on my iPhone while Okay, now you get a rebuttal. Okay, no, you you answered this one first. And now you go for and that's very stressful for me, and it's stressful for them. Yeah. And I felt like they were watching me to make sure I got it right, which they should but it's so I was like, no, no, let's make this a conversation one on one. And I'm really proud of what we did with that. We, in 2020 in the midst of the pandemic, we I think we interviewed close to 50 people over three or four weeks and we taped them all and then we would combine them with respective to their races, or we put them individually online so people could watch them. And they got a great response. It was really it was a public service. And I think we did a really good job.
Angela Tuell:Love that. What do you - what do you wish you would have known 20 years ago that you know now?
Rusty Ray:I think that I learned pretty quickly in the game that especially in TV, the people that you want to be on TV, and that you need to talk to don't want to be on TV, and all the people that want to be on TV is not the people we want to talk to. Does that makes sense?
Angela Tuell:That is perfect.
Rusty Ray:Yeah. We could never get the people we needed on TV, it was always the people that we didn't want. That wanted to be on, you know, not always, not always, but often. And I learned, especially starting in the Carolinas, which is where my whole family's from, but I didn't really live there after the age of six. And so I kind of grew up in Maryland. And we went to school with a bunch of kids from New Jersey who all thought Maryland was the South, right? Like no the south is the south. So when I go back there as a 22 year old to start my career and like my coworker, finally, who lived there her whole life, she finally had to say to me, you know, you really have to just talk to people, and you just have to kind of shoot the breeze with them. And you just have to make small talk. And that's not something that I'm good at. Even now. Like I'm not, I can do it for a short amount of time. But like you have to I have to make an effort to do that. Yeah. And I walked into that job thinking, well, they're gonna want to talk to me because I worked for the TV station. Well, that's not the case. No. And if you can, and there were, it got to be where I, I was driving to the home of the Vietnam veteran who had just recently reunited with a man from North Vietnam, whom he had fought, or from South Vietnam, excuse me, whom he had fight fought alongside side in the war 50 years ago. And I was driving to Jim's house in North Carolina, and I'm by myself going to shoot the story by myself or this this part of the story. And I liked out loud, I said to myself, I have to get Jim to trust me right away. And that sounds that could sound disingenuous, but it's not. It's really not, it's the intention is, I need this person to share with me, I want this person to share with me some very sensitive and very impactful things about their life, right. And if I mean time to go in and talk about sports are going to talk about the weather for a few minutes, even though that's not really what I want to do. That's what we need to do to make this story the best it can be and that I don't mean that to be no tell my students that I don't this, it's not to say that what we do is in any way fake or disingenuous. It's just a process of knowing what you need to have when you walk out of there to make the story the best that it can be.
Angela Tuell:Yes. And I think it takes that kind of personality to do well, in journalism, and talking to people. I, you know, I've had people tell me that I'm just easy to talk to, and they can just open up to me about anything. So I think that really helped, you know, in that in that sort of, and it wasn't it, it was never in a fake way. It was like you said, you know, thinking about what can we talk about? Or how can I make them feel comfortable? But it's, it's very helpful, because you want people to be able to, you want to get their story fully. Yeah, that's the best way to do it.
Rusty Ray:Yes, you do. You want them to, you want them to be the best representation of themselves.
Angela Tuell:Yes, yes. 100%. So, before we go, I also wanted to ask you about teaching, you've taught at two division one universities, helping shaping the next generation of journalists.
Rusty Ray:Bless their hearts.
Angela Tuell:What advice do you have for want to be broadcasters?
Rusty Ray:I would say, you know, and people said this to me when I was coming up. And in my internships there in Washington, I was fortunate enough to be able to intern at NBC for in Washington, the NBC local station. And the to one lady said to me one time she'd been on the air there for years and years. And she's she looked at me one day, there was some argument going on, and she looked at me, she said, There's no such thing as the big time. You know, the people are people and so, but another person said to me, you got to know what you want to do. And that's what I tell like even my colleagues that I've worked with for 20 years, or I worked with before, and we still talk to each other 20 years later, like you got to know what you want to do. If you if you want to get a new job. You know, then get a new job. And if you're starting out graduating college and you want to get a TV job, but you don't want to live in North Dakota that don't apply for a job in North Dakota, if you want to great if you don't want to live in Florida, then don't that's what Dr. Thornton told us, the University of Maryland God rest her soul. If you think that you're going to do this job and live near home and have weekends off and not work Christmas and have enough money for a new car and be able to see your girlfriend every day, then you're in the wrong business, but it's really, if you don't want to work on weekends, then don't apply for a job where you have to work on the weekends. It's that simple. Like, if you don't want to do these things, don't make yourself miserable thinking that one day I'll get there because you're you're not going to last. And I've seen a lot of people, a lot of people, good reporters, good people, and plenty of not so good people, like not last in this business, because they just got bogged down by the all that stuff. And that doesn't make it so it doesn't mean that everything's been easier than my family life is easy as a breeze just because I figured all this out. That's not the case. But like, don't do those things. If you don't want to do those things don't apply for that job. Just don't.
Angela Tuell:Yeah, yeah. That's what I asked. I think, like you said, you know, knowing what you want to do, even even in not the journalism world, you know, I've my kids are still pretty young, but I'm gonna be telling them, You know, I don't care what you want to be when you grow up. But I want you to know what you want to, you know, decide what you'd like to be in, go for it, do it. You know, no matter what it is. That's right. It was pretty. It was pretty cool to want to be a journalist, you know, in high school, and, and then to actually do it, and then you've done it your whole career.
Rusty Ray:Yeah, that's right. That's right. And I, you know, I thought maybe I thought when leaving South Carolina, when we when we moved here, I thought I was done with TV. Like, I really thought I'd done everything I could do I can my skills will translate to a PR or government communication or a nonprofit communications job, or video production firm or whatever. And I struggled in finding that fit and it didn't I got a couple of interviews and that's it. But it's you know, God bless you for being able to translate it into build your successful company. I'm so proud of you. I think that's great. But, but my, but my strengths maybe are really are doing the news and finding the news and writing the news and presenting it now on radio. That's that's what I do. And I really enjoy it.
Angela Tuell:Yeah, I know. They're saying there's no big time but you really are big time now.
Rusty Ray:I don't know I I'm pretty excited about this new job. It's been really great. The people have been really, really great and really patient and very, very cool. And so every day is a is a new day to crank out some news.
Angela Tuell:Yes, how can our listeners follow you online or listen to you online?
Rusty Ray:Check me out on Twitter at RustyRay1980, 1-9-8-0. That's that's the year we were born or at least I was born I don't know about you but
Angela Tuell:I was 79, but oh well.
Rusty Ray:Okay. Okay. And. And yeah, so I'm on Twitter a lot. And I'm now that I have this job that I tried to tweet less about NASCAR and The Sopranos and more about what's actually happening in the world. So that's that's where I am. Yeah, I'm
Angela Tuell:Can we listen to the newscasts online?
Rusty Ray:Yeah. WCCORadio.com. Or on the Audacy app is what I'm told that we were supposed to say. Yeah.
Angela Tuell:Thank you so much for talking with us today, Rusty.
Rusty Ray:Angie it's so cool. I'm so proud of you in this this podcast. You've had a lot of people I know. And a lot of big names in our in our business. That's really cool that you have this opportunity for people to talk and you are easy to talk to you are we can tell you things.
Angela Tuell:And I know we'll continue to see more amazing work from you. So I can't wait to continue to follow it. You're You're keep making us all proud.
Rusty Ray:I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Angela Tuell:That's all for this episode of Media in Minutes, a podcast by Communications Redefined. Please take a moment to rate, review and subscribe to our show. We'd love to hear what you think. You can find more at CommunicationsRedefined.com/podcast. I'm your host, Angela Tuell. Talk to you next time.